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Interview with Maxime Verhagen: Deputy Prime Minister of the Netherlands

July 21, 2012 11:27 am

Deputy Prime Minister of the Netherlands, Maxime Verhagen.

The Netherlands passed a law in 2011 which prevents internet service providers from charging more for certain types of content, effectively making ‘network neutrality’ the norm. The Netherlands is the first country in Europe to enact such legislation and follows the lead of Chile, who enshrined the principle into law in 2010.

Michiel Willems spoke to Maxime Verhagen, the Dutch Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Economic Affairs, Innovation and Agriculture, who introduced the new legislation, to find out how network neutrality will work in practice in the country.

MW: Why is network neutrality of such importance for the Dutch Government?

Verhagen: In our coalition agreement, we have stated that the open character of the internet needs to be safeguarded. Because we share the ideal of preserving the open character of the internet, which enables end users to access and distribute information, applications and services of their choice, network neutrality is essential.
The principle of openness of the internet has been a key driver of the growth of the internet to date and has facilitated an open environment conducive to the spectacular levels of innovation seen in online applications, content and service networks. In this respect, the internet is seen as a communication tool, which is the basis for many innovations within our economy and society.

MW: Why is this law so important for Dutch internet consumers and the Dutch telecommunications market? What is really changing?

V: The Dutch Government and a majority in the Dutch Parliament – the Tweede Kamer – believe that the open character of the internet and innovation is threatened by the policy of the majority of mobile operators in the Netherlands who would allow competing services, such as VOIP and messaging services like Skype and WhatsApp only in the most expensive mobile subscriptions, and block them in other subscriptions.
Clearly, the reason for this is to reduce their loss of voice and SMS income due to the extensive use of these innovative competing services. This way, an unwanted barrier is introduced for independent service providers who would like to enter the market and who are dependent on mobile operators to reach their clients. With this law on network neutrality, we want to safeguard the ability for independent service providers to enter the market without experiencing unreasonable entry barriers. But, of course, the providers must be able to base their subscription costs on the amount of data or the speed of the connection. But since we think openness is key to further growth, we do not want a block on certain services or higher prices for the use of innovative services like Skype.

MW: Could this law be a model for other Member States or the European Union as a whole? Will the Dutch Government push for regulation at EU-level?

V: The current EU telecommunications standards leave the possibility for a law on network neutrality. It is up to the European Commission as well as other European countries to make their own judgement on this issue. The European guidelines are of great value –for instance, the new European transparency rules on traffic management policies. But since we think the openness of the system is so intrinsic to future growth, we are going one step further. I see the same discussion taking place in other European countries now as well. Of course, we are staying in close touch with the European Commission as well as with Commissioner Kroes.

Commissioner Kroes.

MW: Are operators transparent (enough) in the network management policies they apply? Will transparency requirements be imposed?

V:
Yes. That is a key element. Regarding transparency, there is a lot of room for improvement. As a part of the implementation of the New Regulatory Framework, there will therefore also be an obligation for operators to be transparent on their internet traffic policy, e.g in the case of congestion. Consumers want to know how the traffic is managed and what exactly is taking place. I think these transparency guidelines, together with our new plans, are of great benefit for the consumer.

MW: The Googles and Facebooks of this world openly state that telecommunications operators will have to make all the required investments while most of the internet giants will get the largest chunk of the pie. How are the operators going to recover these costs under the new regime? Will net neutrality possibly halt investment?

V:Operators will indeed have to invest in their networks to keep up with the exploding bandwidth demand. So it is important that operators are able to earn enough money to carry out these investments – there is no doubt about that. The new law also leaves enough room for this. At the same time, some operators will have to find other business models than those they apply now. Instead of differentiating subscriptions for consumers by blocking certain services, they need to differentiate on other parameters, like for example, data usage or speed. This will still be allowed and the providers are still in the position to compete on parameters such as these. Other important parameters are high quality service and services like protection against spam, viruses and Trojans.

The big guns of the Internet are relying on telecommunications providers to up their game.

 

MW: In relation to the previous question, do you expect shifts in telecommunications/ bandwidth pricing?

V: The future will show if prices of internet subscriptions will rise. It is not impossible that this will be the case. The price that a consumer ultimately pays depends on his total communications behaviour. If, for example, a consumer uses his internet subscription a lot to do VOIP, he possibly can have a cheaper voice subscription. Relevantly, I also expect a change from flat fee internet subscriptions to subscriptions where your bill depends on the amount of data you use –something we are now seeing in Canada, for example, with usage-based billing.
So, for some users this may mean that they will pay less than they do now, while others may need to pay more. But I think it is fair that what you pay depends on what you use. So the offerings the operators will set in the market and the communications behaviour of an individual will ultimately determine what an individual has to pay. It is difficult to do exact predictions about this. On the other hand, we will give out new extra frequencies next year and we expect new competitors to enter the mobile market in the Netherlands. This may lead to increased competition and, as a result, moderate prices.

MW: Thank you for your time.

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Author: Michiel Willems Dutchman Michiel Willems LLM MA is based in central London as an international journalist in broadcast and print, specialised in UK current affairs, e-commerce, finance, business and legal news. Michiel studied law and journalism in the Netherlands and the United Kingdom and after gaining experience in Malaysia and India he returned to London in 2008 to embark on a career in writing and reporting. With global study and work experience and an open mind, he currently works in central London as an associate editor, writer, voice over professional and radio reporter. Michiel has developed a great interest in the facts behind the headlines, the stories behind the statistics and the people behind the news. His specialties are writing news stories, features, editorial comments, catchy standfirsts, drop quotes, captions, headers and headlines, commissioning, editing, conducting interviews, managing publications’ flatplans, radio reporting and gathering large amounts of information within a relatively small amount of time. Michiel usually approaches a story from an original, relevant angle and likes to come up with fresh ideas for news stories and in-depth features. He speaks to a wide number of sources across the political, financial, business, legal and e-commerce sectors on a daily basis. Michiel has a broad network of contacts, in the UK as well as overseas, mainly consisting of bankers, lawyers, lobbyists, consultants, entrepreneurs, payment processors, regulators, trade associations, policymakers and politicians.

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